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DevMeeting-2026-05-13

Misc #21956: DevMeeting-2026-05-13

Added by mame (Yusuke Endoh) about 2 months ago. Updated 3 days ago.

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Assignee:
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[ruby-core:125062]

Description

The next dev meeting

Date: 2026/05/13 13:00-17:00 (JST)
Log: TBD

  • Dev meeting IS NOT a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker.
  • Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly.
  • Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue).
  • We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English.
  • All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers).
  • The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time.
  • DO NOT discuss then on this ticket, please.

Call for agenda items

If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format:

* [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name)
  * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.)

Example:

* [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1)
  * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature.
  • It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/05/10. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting.
  • The format is strict. We'll use this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda. We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format.
  • Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion.

Related issues 1 (1 open0 closed)

Related to Ruby - Misc #14770: [META] DevelopersMeetingOpenActions

Updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh) about 2 months ago Actions #1

  • Related to Misc #14770: [META] DevelopersMeeting added

Updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh) about 2 months ago Actions #2 [ruby-core:125063]

Note: This is the ticket for the meeting scheduled after the dev meeting co-located with RubyKaigi (2026-04-21). Until then, please list agenda items on https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21916.

Updated by jhawthorn (John Hawthorn) 14 days ago Actions #3 [ruby-core:125387]

  • [Feature #21981] Remove CREF rewriting for methods on cloned classes/modules
    • Current behaviour is inconsistent with all other constant references being lexically scoped (inheritance, mixins, define_method). Only Class#{dup,clone} has weird dynamic behaviour.
    • I think it's rarely used, however it's a breaking change.

Updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) 8 days ago · Edited Actions #4 [ruby-core:125429]

  • [Bug #22058] {Method,InstanceMethod}#super_method doesn't work correctly for refined method with refinements for method active in the caller's scope (jeremyevans0)
    • I found semantic issues with #super_method for refined methods.
    • For the current class, it uses refinements activated at the time the Method/InstanceMethod was created.
    • For ancestors, it uses refinements activated in the scope calling #super_method.
    • Can we define the expected semantics for #super_method for refined methods?
    • shugo: The current behaviour of super seems to have a bug; if it's fixed, super_method need not to search refinements.

Updated by himura467 (Akito Shitara) 7 days ago · Edited Actions #5 [ruby-core:125433]

  • [Feature #22056] Add zero-copy String constructor backed by an arbitrary Ruby object
    • Propose adding rb_enc_str_new_external (and variants, names tentative): creates a String referencing existing memory without copying, with the GC keeping an arbitrary parent object alive
    • To fully satisfy the use case described in #22056, this proposal alone is insufficient. Two additional concerns raised in that ticket also need to be addressed:
      1. Null-termination requirement (https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22056#note-11): The proposed API requires callers to guarantee that buf[len + enc.termlen] is accessible and zero-filled.
      2. RSTRING_PTR null-termination invariant (https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22056#note-12): The new API risks violating the existing guarantee that RSTRING_PTR() always returns a null-terminated string, which existing C extensions silently rely on.
    • Should these two concerns be resolved before evaluating the merits of this proposal, or is it acceptable to discuss all three in parallel?

Updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) 4 days ago · Edited Actions #6 [ruby-core:125453]

  • [Feature #22060] Improve Pathname by migrating internal methods to pathname.c
    • The performance of related methods becomes 2..4 times faster.
    • GH-16907
    • Currently Pathname("a:.").absolute? returns true on Windows.
      It feels questionable.

Updated by chucke (Tiago Cardoso) 3 days ago Actions #7 [ruby-core:125472]

  • [Feature #13677]: Add more details to error "Name or service not known (SocketError)"
    • Proposal PR adding the host into the error message
      • before: "getaddrinfo: Name or service not known (SocketError)"
      • after: "getaddrinfo 'invalid.host.com': Name or service not known (SocketError)"
  • [Feature #21619]: logger: Context API
    • discussed in the dev meeting 5 months ago
    • no feedback from sonots nor tagomoris, asking for feedback again.
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