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Updated by shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe) over 6 years ago

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  # http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4207 
  = Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for surviving 1.8? 
 
  Hi, 
 
  I know that we cannot release ruby_1_8 branch... more than anyone. 
 
  But the time past 3 years from 1.9.0, and 2.5 years from 1.8.7; 
  it will be turned to 3 years in June 2011. 
 
  Why I'm marking "3 years," because releasing interval over 3 years 
  first time ever, and almost systems have revised after 3 years from 
  developed in my experience... so, almost codes which targets 1.8.7 
  preparing to revised; I think. 
 
  Well, Which version used when codes which targets 1.8.7 are revised, 
  I recommend 1.9.2 on my post, but almost can't use 1.9.x in 
  actuality. Like, Extension libraries doesn't work.  
  When can't use 1.9.x in codes, so it means use only 1.8.7. but it is 
  really tough, for making tasks with 1.8.7, and I think that when I  
  can give up maintaining 1.8.7? when my motivation is decreasing in 
  future, it won't increase again. So I want to use new version, 
  and don't use 1.8.7. New codes must target newer versions. 
 
  So, I want to set directions about 1.8.x future. I'm considing that 
  destroy ruby_1_8 branch and we won't release 1.8.8 for a one of 
  ideas. If we won't release 1.8.8, it means that can publish 
  announcement about 1.8.7 is last version of 1.8 branch,then 1.8 
  goes to last maintainance release. ah, in simplicity developers 
  task is decreased; developers will be happy. 
 
  P.S.: I hope that people in a posision like Endoh Yusuke at 1.9.2. 
  Anyone? 
 
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  # http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4207#note-6 
 
  Well, Organize this issue without my factors, currently we have the following 
  issues of 1.8.8. 
 
  * the time past 3 years from 1.9.0 released. In last 3 years, We released 
    1.9.2 smoothly at 1.9 branch. Thanks Yugui (Yuki Sonoda). 
    Also many users are using 1.9.x at forms of RailsDevCon. 
    http://railsdevcon.jp/RailsDevCon2010report.pdf 
  * 1.8.8 (and 1.8.7?) is on migration step to 1.9, but if we continue 
    developing 1.8.8 at this rate and release 1.8.8 in 2020, do users which 
    haven't migrated to 1.9 exist? 
  * Currently does ruby_1_8 include any prompting structures to migrate 
    1.9.x more than 1.8.7 at all? Just not merged same patches as 1.9? 
  * "I want to release so I release. Any users didn't effect." is a one of 
    views, but it makes unhappy by recognition differences? 
 
  So.. Because 1.8 mustn't let be uncontrolled, 
    I propose the following ideas which possible: 
 
  1. Not today but ASAP, release 1.8.8 as "better 1.8.7." Release goal is this 
     Summer. 
  2. Develop 1.8.8 until it's approached to ideal. Users can't be affect. 
     Release goal is 2020 Christmas. 
  3. We won't release 1.8.8 never. Drop. 
  4. Otherwise I haven't thought yet. 
 
  I don't specify any idea for adoption. 
  Anyhow, I think that 1.8 mustn't keep current principle, so I asking "What do we do?" 
 
  Well.. what do we do? 
 
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